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HEAVYWEIGHT
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04-13-12 09:30 PM - Post#1428068    



Michigan, NO HELMET law passed.

Wow, Citizens are allowed to use their own judgement, GG>

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04-13-12 10:52 PM - Post#1428131    


    In response to HEAVYWEIGHT

I've always been a little curious about helmet laws in the US. I 100% support freedom of choice et al, and see how some bikers want to be able to ride "free" - but if those bikers also chose to not have health insurance or to not save hundreds of thousands of dollars for potential brain injury treatment, do the also feel free to take advantage of the state and the tax payer when they lay it down and smack their heads off the street?

If the gov shouldnt have to provide birth control for slutty college chicks, should it have to provide care for head injuries brought on by bikers choosing to not wear any protection?

Disclaimer: rode bikes in my 20's - always with leathers and bucket... Stopped when I realized my recklessness or that of those iwas sharing the road with would probably get me killed sooner than later. That was my choice. I support anyone else's choices which may be different. Just want to know what the thought process is if there are any members who are choosing to ride without protective gear....

 
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04-13-12 10:54 PM - Post#1428134    


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Next,hopefully they get rid of child seat laws.I should have the right to keep my child from being in a car seat.Who is the Government to tell me what is best for for my child?.....
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04-14-12 02:03 AM - Post#1428238    


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If I choose to not wear a helmet, how does that negatively affect you? I'm the one taking the risk. It's not your head that's going to be dragged for 200 yards down the highway.

Same with seatbelt laws - in fact seatbelt laws probably cause more accidents because drivers feel safer knowing that if they make a mistake, they will probably be okay.

As Steven Landsburg put it: "If you find it hard to believe that people drive less carefully when their cars are safer, consider the proposition that people drive more carefully when their cars are more dangerous. This is, of course, just another way of saying the same thing, but somehow people find it easier to believe. If the seat belts were removed from your car, wouldn’t you be more cautious in driving? Carrying this observation to the extreme, Armen Alchian of the University of California at Los Angeles has suggested a way to bring about a major reduction in the accident rate: Require every car to have a spear mounted on the steering wheel, pointing directly at the driver’s heart. Alchian confidently predicts that we would see a lot less tailgating."
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04-14-12 07:40 AM - Post#1428260    


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The argument has been that if someone chooses to not wear helmet/seatbelt it increases chances of serious injury which may fall on the tax payer to foot the bill. In the case of helmet, I'm guessing you're fucked whether you wear it or not if you shit the bed at 80 MPH.
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Edited by taz on 04-14-12 07:41 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
 
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04-14-12 08:19 AM - Post#1428271    


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I wonder what the cost of drafting, examining, and maintaining the law is. Not to mention enforcement, both pro- and re- active.

I know people who have crashed at over 80 MPH, wearing full protection, and were able to walk away. That is, riding jacket/pants and full face shield helmet. I'm not entirely sure I believe that you're fucked if you crash, if you know how to fall properly and have good equipment.
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04-14-12 09:31 AM - Post#1428283    


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I stopped reading when I saw something about "people would drive more careful if they weren't wearing seatbelts".

I don't care if you are the safest driver in the world, there's always going to be some jackass driver out there to take you out. Additionally accidents do happen and people do get ejected from vehicles.

Here in Detroit at my hospital we see people all the time come to our operating room for unrestrained motor accidents. With spring weather here we've already had a number of motorcycle accidents, luckily the ones who make it to the operating room where I work were wearing helmets and survived.

Since Michigan no longer requires helmets on motorcycles does that mean I can go to the metro parks and ride a bicycle without a helmet. Currently they make you wear one.
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04-14-12 09:35 AM - Post#1428284    


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Cane, if you read the rest of the post, you will see the logic.

And I never once argued that the severity of the accidents would lessen by not wearing a seat belt. Just that the frequency should.
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04-14-12 11:13 AM - Post#1428303    


    In response to Baldridge

  • Baldridge Said:
Next,hopefully they get rid of child seat laws.I should have the right to keep my child from being in a car seat.Who is the Government to tell me what is best for for my child?.....



Yeah hopefully they get rid of those child proof medicine caps and age minimums for toys. If we're real lucky we can eliminate all lead product bans, and start putting thumb tacks in Cheerios!

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04-14-12 11:24 AM - Post#1428306    


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Yeah, even though I don't ride, it's one of the things I actually respect about Delaware. They leave it up to you. If you want to leave your brains on the highway, it's completely your choice. God bless America. Also, you can make a U-Turn just about anywhere you fucking want, which is also awesome.
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04-14-12 02:37 PM - Post#1428366    


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Colorado is also a no-helmet law state. I think they actually repealed it a few years back. Since Washington was a helmet mandatory state, it's a little weird seeing them zip by with no skid-lids on.
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04-14-12 02:42 PM - Post#1428369    


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The Gubment can't tell 'em to wear helmets but they have no problem riding the roads that were built and are maintained by.....
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04-14-12 03:20 PM - Post#1428382    


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would I like this option? You bet, but in Canada the laws are based on the expense to the medical system if a rider has a serious head injury. Being that we have a free public system, sort of
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04-14-12 03:31 PM - Post#1428388    


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The Gubment can't tell 'em to wear helmets but they have no problem riding the roads that were built and are maintained by.....



The Tax payers.

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04-14-12 04:48 PM - Post#1428420    


    In response to HEAVYWEIGHT

  • HEAVYWEIGHT Said:
  • stockfan Said:
The Gubment can't tell 'em to wear helmets but they have no problem riding the roads that were built and are maintained by.....



The Tax payers.



exactly.please go riding without a helmet heavy.you probaly already have.
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04-14-12 04:53 PM - Post#1428422    


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  • ghoulboy Said:
  • HEAVYWEIGHT Said:
  • stockfan Said:
The Gubment can't tell 'em to wear helmets but they have no problem riding the roads that were built and are maintained by.....



The Tax payers.



exactly.please go riding without a helmet heavy.you probaly already have.





Isn't California a nanny-state? I bet they have a helmet law.
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04-14-12 06:38 PM - Post#1428461    


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  • ghoulboy Said:
  • HEAVYWEIGHT Said:
  • stockfan Said:
The Gubment can't tell 'em to wear helmets but they have no problem riding the roads that were built and are maintained by.....



The Tax payers.



exactly.please go riding without a helmet heavy.you probaly already have.




Exactly. The government has no role in building or maintaining the nations highways. Should really start wearing a helmet to protect that genius mind.
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04-14-12 10:02 PM - Post#1428588    


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I wear a Fulmer skull hat and I love it. I wouldn't ride without one.


 
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04-14-12 10:18 PM - Post#1428596    


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Yep we got helmet laws here, I have a similar cap as posux.

I actually think helmets are plus, along with leather jacket and gloves. If you come off the bike, you will likey.

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04-14-12 10:20 PM - Post#1428598    


    In response to stockfan

  • stockfan Said:
  • ghoulboy Said:
  • HEAVYWEIGHT Said:
  • stockfan Said:
The Gubment can't tell 'em to wear helmets but they have no problem riding the roads that were built and are maintained by.....



The Tax payers.



exactly.please go riding without a helmet heavy.you probaly already have.




Exactly. The government has no role in building or maintaining the nations highways. Should really start wearing a helmet to protect that genius mind.


who's going to pay for it?you al?
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