01-14-12 10:50 PM - Post#1389313    

    In response to Drunk_24-7

• Drunk_24-7 Said:

BINGO!

C29

01-15-12 12:05 AM - Post#1389338    

    In response to COCHRANE29

I think we'll see the enforcer re-evolve. It will take a while, but it'll evolve just at is it did from the 60's, to the 70's, then the 80's.

The future heavyweights will be similar to what they were in the 80's. Big, tough guys who were actual contributing players in juniors. Guys who aren't quite good enough to play in the NHL, so they earn a regular spot by defending there teammates and fighting all comers. It took courage and growing pains. Remember, most enforcers back then could actually play the game at a high level. They weren't bred as enforcers as young teenagers.

What the enforcer eventually evolved into was guys who never could play, and were bred to be enforcers at a young age. It got to the point where these guys weren't even training for hockey. They were on steroids and training MMA. I have to admit it got ridiculous.

We're in a shitty phase right now, where the few true enforcers who can skate a regular shift just don't have enough opponents. Too many teams are dressing these half ass-ed "fighters". Guys who play with "energy", and make the team by fighting.... but they don't want to fight the heavyweights. I'm sorry, I have no use for these guys. I'm hoping that big guys who can actually skate will start showing for training camp knowing that Tanner Glass won't fight heavyweights, and decide to take his job by fighting everyone. Some of these guys will grow as fighters. Mike Rupp is a perfect example.... And almost all of the guys in the 80's fit this mold. Most weren't bred as enforcers.

That's just my optimistic take. Enough of these designated "middleweight" fighters who seem to get away with fighting in there own weightclass... they don't deter anything. Guys who are 6'4", and playing a regular, contributing shift are going see these frauds and become enforcers for the pay raise.

01-15-12 01:57 AM - Post#1389351    

    In response to integrity1

I am ok with this but dont need to ban all the hockey fights.

01-15-12 04:02 AM - Post#1389365    

    In response to COCHRANE29

• COCHRANE29 Said:

Totally agree.

01-15-12 04:21 AM - Post#1389367    

    In response to Posux

What more we loses the heavyweights, real enforcers so the game is going cheaper IMO because of instigator rule.

I remember from the past when there was no a instigator system as real enforcers sent a message for cheap shotters and they stopped the cheap playing during the game.
Earlier the game was more honest, fair.

01-15-12 06:33 AM - Post#1389368    

    In response to Posux

• Posux Said:

Agreed

My job description? If there's a problem on the ice, I just go out and fix it. - Dave Brown

01-15-12 08:49 AM - Post#1389379    

    In response to Kordic

Right on the money haymaker36!

01-15-12 07:48 PM - Post#1389544    

    In response to SolidChin34

The problem with the game is that they don't allow for any emotion to be involved in the game. They wanna get rid of "staged fights" then they need to allow players to have emotions on the ice. The cheap shot artist has no fear anymore. The worst thing they get anymore is a suspension. No retaliation, no punishment, no fear. The enforcer is the only person losing out in this game, every player that steps on the ice is losing. They are spending less time trying to play the game and more worried about some guy coming across from their bench ready to smash them with their stick, elbows, or knees. They think that enforcers are useless, well then they obviously aren't listening to the players, owners, and coaches. The fans opinions mean nothing to the league member. But I bet the current players, the current owners, and the current coaches could do something. I wish the league would learn something from all of these players saying something but they are scared of all the insurance and all of the injuries, but have they thought that maybe suspensions isn't going to end someone's thought process. But I bet a 6'5 250 lb wishing to pound the shit out you, would change your mind. I played the game of hockey, and I can tell you personally, no-one cares about what the refs do. If you wanna take a swing at someone, the refs isn't going to jump in and save your ass, but I bet your teammate will. I bet your teammate will tell the other team to knock off the bullshit and play the fucking game. But until you see other players willing to enforce, you won't see enforcers do that either.

I may be dumb, but I'm an impeccable judge of character. And I have impeccable character. - Johnz

01-15-12 08:23 PM - Post#1389556    

    In response to Kordic

[quote=Kordic][quote=Posux][quote=C OCHRANE29][quote=Drunk_24-7][quote= haymaker36]If the rest of the NHL's fights going forward are between guys like Hendricks and Downie, consider me not interested. Both of these guys can't fight for shit, and intimidate nobody. They deter nothing. Guys are going to stop the cheap shit because of the vicious KO power of Steve Downie? Matt Hendricks is a fuckin tomato can. He is a terrible fighter and offers no deterrent whatsoever. The instigator rule is what keeps enforcers from being intimidating, not the fact that they have less skill than the other players. Toughness is a skill set that they can no longer use. Why on FC is this so hard to understand?
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Finally a few here who refuse to sip the Kool-aid,, I gladly stand with this above group.

2 things are missing from "NHL NOUVEAU"

1. RESPECT- respect for other players and it's past legends. Sickening how this league shits on the REAL LEGENDS of the NHL.

2. RAW EMOTION-sorry this current NHL is FAR from anything from the 60's thru late 90's. BORING lifeless and quiet???? sounds like todays game alot of times,,, played in a Library.