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12-29-12 12:35 PM - Post#1495298    



http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=412383

This one looks serious folks, more serious than the last few, and it looks really good:

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- Ten-Year Agreement (through 2021/22 season); Parties have mutual opt-out right after 8 years.

- 50-50 Revenue Split between Clubs and Players with current HRR Accounting.

- $300 million in "Make-Whole" payments (outside the system) to compensate Players for the reduced value of Player contracts in the early years of the new CBA.

- No contractual "roll backs" of Player Salaries.

- Clubs can operate with an effective Upper Limit of $70.2 million in 2012/13; must come into compliance with $60 million Upper Limit for the start of the 2013/14 season.

- Each Club will be entitled to execute up to one "Compliance Buy-Out" prior to the 2013/14 season pursuant to which payments made to the Player will not be charged against the team's Cap, but will be charged against the Players' Share.

- Establishment of a Defined Benefit Pension Plan that will provide maximum permissible benefits to Players upon retirement. The Plan will be funded with contributions out of Players' Share and $50 million of the "Make-Whole" payment amount of $300 million will be allocated and set aside to fund potential underfunding liabilities of the Plan at end of CBA.

- Rules for Entry Level System, Salary Arbitration and Group 3 Unrestricted Free Agency will remain unchanged.

- Maximum contract length of 6 years subject to a Club's ability to re-sign its own Player for a term of up to 7 years (provided the Player played his last full season with the re-signing Club). In addition, year-to-year Salary variability will be limited (up or down) to no more than 10% of the value of the first year of a multi-year SPC.

- Money paid (above a defined threshold) to Players on NHL SPCs in another professional league (e.g., the AHL or a European league) will be charged against the NHL team's Cap, but not against the Players' Share.

- "Cap Advantage Recapture" formula applicable to existing long-term contracts (in excess of 6 years) for years in which Player is retired or fails/refuses to perform under his NHL SPC.

- Ability for Clubs to retain/allocate Salary and Cap Charges in the context of Player Trades within specified parameters.

- More robust League-wide Revenue Sharing Program (increased pool from approximately $150 million to $200 million) with creation of Industry Growth Fund to improve the long-term revenue generating potential of the League and low-grossing Clubs. Formation of active Revenue Sharing Oversight Committee on which NHLPA will participate.

- New Player Discipline procedures and protocol incorporating Player appeal rights to a neutral third-party arbitrator for both on-ice and off-ice discipline.

- Flexibility-related adjustments to Payroll Range System, including (in addition to Salary/Cap Charge allocation in Player trades):
1. Lower Limit obligation without performance bonuses;
2. Elimination of Re-Entry Waivers;
3. Creation of Salary Cap exceptions for emergency roster situations/goaltender injuries;
4. Waiver exemptions for mid-season signings of Club's own European Players;
5. Availability of Performance Bonus Cushion in every year of the CBA; and
6. Creation of "interview period" for Unrestricted Free Agents.

- Various Player contract enhancements and protections, including:
1. Early activation of "No Move/No Trade" clauses in contract extensions;
2. Additional restrictions on Club "buy-out" rights of Player contracts;
3. Modified Waiver obligations for Clubs / enhanced Waiver opportunities for Players;
4. Standardization of reimbursements and benefits related to Player assignments (trades, loans, recalls, etc.);
5. Continued increases in League Minimum Salary and Per Diem;
6. Playoff Pool increased from $6.5 million to $13 million in Year 1; additional regular increases over the balance of the CBA term;
7. All minor league salary paid in USD;
8. Liberalized "Cap treatment" standards for Club initiatives benefitting Players, such as "parent-son" road trips; milestone awards/gifts; parental travel and lodging for attendance at EL Player games, Club provision of various types of "professional development"-type services for Players, etc.

- Player "Working Condition" improvements, including:
1. Ice-time restrictions and mandatory "days off" requirements during Training Camp;
2. Club practice schedule and "days off" requirements during the Regular Season;
3. Extended "Christmas Break" (i.e., December 24-26 "days off" for all purposes);
4. Mandatory facility standards for Visiting Teams relating to training/medical supplies, workout equipment and dressing room standards/supplies;
5. Implementation of "best practices" and continued League initiatives to ensure optimal ice conditions;
6. Tighter restrictions/regulation of Club off-season conditioning requirements and Club Conditioning Camp; and
7. Establishment of annual Orientation and Development Program for Rookies/First Year Players.

- New CBA Article devoted exclusively to Player Health and Safety measures and covering such matters as:
1. The establishment of a Joint NHL/NHLPA Health and Safety Committee with equal representation from the NHL and the NHLPA;
2. The establishment of "Standard of Care" and "Professional Duty" obligations owing from team health care professionals to Players;
3. The establishment of minimum requirements for "health management" staffing and resources;
4. The establishment of standards for the creation, updating and maintenance of Electronic Medical Records for Players;
5. Improvements to Second Medical Opinion procedures and protocol and Fitness to Play determinations; and
6. Implementation of additional steps and safeguards to monitor the use (and possible misuse) of prescription medication by Players.
7. Increased flexibility for Players for rehabilitation of injuries during the offseason.

- Elimination of NHLPA "Guarantee" of Escrow shortfall and increased NHLPA discretion to determine in-season Escrow Rates.

- Completion of expert third-party review of SABH Program and commitment to make recommended modifications and improvements, as appropriate.

- Improvements to existing Performance Enhancing Substances Program, including:
1. Expansion of Prohibited Substances List to include illegal stimulants;
2. The establishment of testing protocol for HGH;
3. Varied forms and times of testing throughout the year;
4. The establishment of protocol for "reasonable cause testing";
5. Incorporation of agreed-upon appeal procedures from "positive" test results; and
6. Commitment to work with the AHL and the PHPA to expand Program to cover AHL Players.

- Joint (NHL/NHLPA) Committees:
1. Formation of new "Owner-Player Relations Committee," with broad-based participation from Owners and Players intended to foster and establish better understanding and stronger working relationships.
2. Formation of new "Revenue Sharing Oversight Committee" to oversee the operation of the Revenue Sharing System.
3. Formation of new "Joint Health and Safety Committee" to make recommendations to the NHL and the NHLPA on Player Health and Safety matters.
4. Formation of new "NHL/NHLPA Equipment Working Group" to study, promulgate and enforce minimum standards for protective equipment utilized by NHL Players.
5. Refined and enhanced role for "Player/Club Competition Committee" (CBA Article 22) with greater consultation and interaction with the NHL General Managers' Committee.
6. The "NHL/NHLPA Joint Owner-Player Broadcasting/Marketing Committee" (CBA Article 32) will be reconstituted to consult and establish policy on League broadcasting and marketing matters, as well as other League business functions and initiatives.
7. The NHL/NHLPA International Committee (CBA Article 24) will be charged with jointly identifying, creating, exploiting and managing new international business opportunities involving NHL Players, in which the NHL and NHLPA will participate as 50-50 partners. The NHL/NHLPA International Committee shall also have an advisory role in planning and executing NHL events conducted outside of North America.

- Players provided access to NHL.com platform for their individual Player websites and social media.

- Implementation of a weighted Draft Lottery in which all non-Playoff teams compete for opportunity to choose first overall in the annual Draft.

- Exclusive negotiating rights window for European Draftees extended to one period covering four years, instead of two periods covering two years each.

- Modification to "Four-Recall Rule" to remove limitation on "number of transactions" following the Trade Deadline; replace with limitations on the total number of Recalls on roster at any one time after the Trade Deadline.

- Updated and improved Grievance Arbitration process and procedure.

- Enhanced access to Game Tickets for Visiting Team Players and NHLPA.

- NHLPA representatives to be provided reasonable access to Club facilities and Players at reasonable times.



I love the limitations on annual salary changes to players, the removal of the re-entry waivers, no salary roll-back, compliance buy-out coupled with severe salary cap cutback, rules for maximum contract length, players who are under contract but playing elsewhere will be charged against the cap, long-term contracts to retirees and other non-players no longer counting against the cap, third-party arbitration for discipline, salary cap exemptions for emergency injury recalls, performance bonus cushion, interview period for UFAs, and the "four recall rule" change, among others.

I like it a lot. The NHLPA would be really stupid to walk away.
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12-29-12 01:44 PM - Post#1495308    


    In response to Tim-

"Cap Advantage Recapture" formula applicable to existing long-term contracts (in excess of 6 years) for years in which Player is retired or fails/refuses to perform under his NHL SPC." appears to contradict this comment: "long-term contracts to retirees and other non-players no longer counting against the cap"......

 
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12-29-12 01:56 PM - Post#1495309    


    In response to daveh8

  • daveh8 Said:
"Cap Advantage Recapture" formula applicable to existing long-term contracts (in excess of 6 years) for years in which Player is retired or fails/refuses to perform under his NHL SPC." appears to contradict this comment: "long-term contracts to retirees and other non-players no longer counting against the cap"......





This would mean Pronger could actually retire.
"No man in the wrong can stand up against a fellow that's in the right an keeps on a-comin."
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12-29-12 02:06 PM - Post#1495311    


    In response to Cotton

The Flyers could cut Bryz and escape that horrible contract...........




 
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12-29-12 02:32 PM - Post#1495314    


    In response to Cotton

  • Cotton Said:
  • daveh8 Said:
"Cap Advantage Recapture" formula applicable to existing long-term contracts (in excess of 6 years) for years in which Player is retired or fails/refuses to perform under his NHL SPC." appears to contradict this comment: "long-term contracts to retirees and other non-players no longer counting against the cap"......





This would mean Pronger could actually retire.




why would he do that? i see no benefit to either the player or team to do so.
 
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12-29-12 02:50 PM - Post#1495318    


    In response to daveh8

  • daveh8 Said:
  • Cotton Said:
  • daveh8 Said:
"Cap Advantage Recapture" formula applicable to existing long-term contracts (in excess of 6 years) for years in which Player is retired or fails/refuses to perform under his NHL SPC." appears to contradict this comment: "long-term contracts to retirees and other non-players no longer counting against the cap"......





This would mean Pronger could actually retire.




why would he do that? i see no benefit to either the player or team to do so.



Because he is still technically an active player and he probably wants to move on with his life. This way he gets his money the same and both sides can move on. Otherwise he with be on LTIR for several more years.
"No man in the wrong can stand up against a fellow that's in the right an keeps on a-comin."
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12-29-12 02:58 PM - Post#1495325    


    In response to Cotton

Doesn't he want to coach? Maybe he's not allowed to get a job in the NHL coaching until he's officially retired?
"It is not our fault that the world is bad, and we do not want to die changing it. We want to live- that is all."

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12-29-12 03:07 PM - Post#1495328    


    In response to Cotton

  • Cotton Said:
  • daveh8 Said:
  • Cotton Said:
  • daveh8 Said:
"Cap Advantage Recapture" formula applicable to existing long-term contracts (in excess of 6 years) for years in which Player is retired or fails/refuses to perform under his NHL SPC." appears to contradict this comment: "long-term contracts to retirees and other non-players no longer counting against the cap"......





This would mean Pronger could actually retire.




why would he do that? i see no benefit to either the player or team to do so.



Because he is still technically an active player and he probably wants to move on with his life. This way he gets his money the same and both sides can move on. Otherwise he with be on LTIR for several more years.



how does he get his money if he retires? the cap hit still stands but why would he get paid? if he stays on LITR, he get paid his full salary (which the flyers are surely offsetting with an insurance policy on his contract) and they get a cap exemption.

am i missing something cotton?
 
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12-29-12 10:36 PM - Post#1495394    


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I dont care if they ever comeback. Im not spending a dime on the NHL for along time!
 
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12-29-12 10:57 PM - Post#1495397    


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  • Tim- Said:
Doesn't he want to coach? Maybe he's not allowed to get a job in the NHL coaching until he's officially retired?



Last I heard he wasn't doing so great & still had major concussion issues and headaches


 
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12-30-12 02:02 AM - Post#1495417    


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Pronger actually wanted to play hockey till the age of 40 he said not too long ago. Maybe that has changed, not sure, but the lockout has given him ample time to heal his injuries and make a comeback. If he stays healthy, he surely could play a few seasons.
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12-30-12 06:47 AM - Post#1495427    


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Pronger is done. The best thing he can for himself and Flyers is retire.
Devils John Madden being interviewed:
Interviewer- How does it feel to cover Gomez?
Madden- I don't know. I don't cover 3rd line centers.


 
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12-30-12 09:21 AM - Post#1495442    


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IF HE RETIRES HE DOESN'T GET PAID AND THE FLYERS GET HIT WITH THE CAP HIT EITHER WAY.

are my posts invisible? it makes zero sense for him and it's why lappy didn't retire until his contract expired.
 
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12-30-12 11:02 AM - Post#1495459    


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The Flyers don't get the cap hit if he stays on LTIR the whole time.

But he was 35 when he signed the contract, so if he retires, the Flyers have no cap relief.

Pretty sure he is paid regardless.
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12-30-12 01:15 PM - Post#1495502    


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  • daveh8 Said:
  • Cotton Said:
  • daveh8 Said:
  • Cotton Said:
  • daveh8 Said:
"Cap Advantage Recapture" formula applicable to existing long-term contracts (in excess of 6 years) for years in which Player is retired or fails/refuses to perform under his NHL SPC." appears to contradict this comment: "long-term contracts to retirees and other non-players no longer counting against the cap"......





This would mean Pronger could actually retire.




why would he do that? i see no benefit to either the player or team to do so.



Because he is still technically an active player and he probably wants to move on with his life. This way he gets his money the same and both sides can move on. Otherwise he with be on LTIR for several more years.



how does he get his money if he retires? the cap hit still stands but why would he get paid? if he stays on LITR, he get paid his full salary (which the flyers are surely offsetting with an insurance policy on his contract) and they get a cap exemption.

am i missing something cotton?



They could agree to pay him it regardless. For both sides what is going on now is a total farce. He can't play anymore and he is done. From his perspective, he can move on with his life. He can't do anything right now because he is under contract for years. From the Flyers end, him being on LTIR is a distraction. Every season this will come up that he "may be coming back" and he is not. He is going to get his money and it is best for both sides to be able to agree to move on.
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12-30-12 04:14 PM - Post#1495530    


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what on earth has you guys thinking players who retire during contracts continue to get paid?
 
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12-30-12 04:15 PM - Post#1495531    


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  • daveh8 Said:
what on earth has you guys thinking players who retire during contracts continue to get paid?


 
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12-30-12 04:48 PM - Post#1495534    


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Why would you quote yourself? lol

I already said that they could come to an agreement to pay him regardless. Did you miss this?
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12-30-12 05:22 PM - Post#1495535    


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what on earth has you guys thinking players who retire during contracts continue to get paid?






Here you go dave:

http://proicehockey.about.com/od/learnthegame/a/nh...
 
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12-30-12 06:17 PM - Post#1495546    


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  • Cotton Said:
Why would you quote yourself? lol

I already said that they could come to an agreement to pay him regardless. Did you miss this?



lol i don't know how that happened. all i am saying is if a player retires they are under no obligation to pay him. could they? sure, i guess. but i don't recall it ever happening. and i cited an example of a player who's career was clearly over but stayed under contract and didn't retire (ian lappy) until it was up....and i'll give you a second-mike rathje. dude was finished and they had to carry him for 3 years; he didn't retire. it makes sense i agree but no player ever seems to (well, the flyers players at least) do it. and there must be a reason why.
 
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