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Username Post: Howatt - Bert Wilson Fight        (Topic#538349)
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01-18-13 01:33 PM - Post#1499957    



Watched this last night for the first time. Wow what a fierce fight! I'd say it was pretty even. No announcers just music playing. Wilson was on Calgary at the time. Anybody the date on this?
 
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01-18-13 01:53 PM - Post#1499961    


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Yellowsite has it on jan 20 1981. Wilsons last fight ever if yellowsite is correct.

Would love to see the fight.


 
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01-18-13 02:50 PM - Post#1499973    


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I would love to see it too, as I don't ever remember seeing it. Couldn't find it on Youtube.


 
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01-18-13 11:52 PM - Post#1500080    


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It's on an Islanders tape 1973-84 Part 3.
 
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01-19-13 11:38 AM - Post#1500141    


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I think I have that tape in my collection. Too bad no VCR.


 
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01-19-13 04:42 PM - Post#1500257    


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It seems that this occurred the day after Bert got pummeled by Barry Beck, so maybe he decided to make sure to be more prepared this time around. And we all know that Howatt could go during the rare occasions when he would open up.
 
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01-24-13 08:43 PM - Post#1502522    


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No recollection of ever seeing this one. Was it at Nassau or Calgary? If Howatt hung in with Bert that's a great showing.
 
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01-24-13 11:05 PM - Post#1502570    


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Mark, I'll watch it again and let you know.
 
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01-25-13 12:43 PM - Post#1502697    


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  • the hammer Said:
It's on an Islanders tape 1973-84 Part 3.



My understanding is that someone recently threw together that Islander series. That fight was lingering out there for some time. It may have been on the Vintage Islander tapes or one of Phil Davis' assorted NHL tapes prior to the composition of that Islander set.

I've always assumed that the old Islander telecasts beamed out on satellite in those days did not have the video scrambling but had some sort of audio scrambling. There are feeds with no/static sound or you have music or someone talking about something totally different. The Islander announcers are missing from some of these feeds.


 
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01-25-13 12:47 PM - Post#1502699    


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  • fiasco001 Said:
I think I have that tape in my collection. Too bad no VCR.



I know someone who can convert those for you to DVD.


 
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01-25-13 01:20 PM - Post#1502708    


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TGR, I have numerous Islanders fights with Gordon Lightfoot music playing in the background or some other boring pop music and always thought that whoever original taped these fights, someone like Sandy or Mark T, were the ones who added it on.
 
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01-25-13 01:21 PM - Post#1502710    


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Also if anybody wants a copy of this Islander DVD I'm willing to trade.
 
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01-25-13 01:58 PM - Post#1502723    


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  • the hammer Said:
TGR, I have numerous Islanders fights with Gordon Lightfoot music playing in the background or some other boring pop music and always thought that whoever original taped these fights, someone like Sandy or Mark T, were the ones who added it on.




I'm sure Mark could clear that up. Some of that music is pretty horrible so I'd give those guys better credit than that. I'd picture Sandy or Mark as more Springsteen fans than some of the stuff you heard on there. I forget which one it was but you have some guy singing "You are the joy of my life" over a hockey fight. There are a few where you can hear a DJ or someone talking about upcoming programming.

Not to mention that music/announcing sounds like it is being fed with the broadcast. Not like it is being played in the room. If you watch the Sherbrook 84-87 tape/DVD, you can hear something going on in the room where the fights are being played. You hear someone going "uppercut" and "yes" and some background noise during some of the fights.

I'm trying to rack my memory but I could have sworn years ago I talked with Dan about this subject. At least I thought it was him who told me this. Could be wrong. I thought in the early days of cable and satellite these broadcasts (for non paying subscribers) were scrambled via the audio so you could not hear the announcers. They probably had no idea someone would be out there taping them for the fights.

I'm thinking if this was the case no one could sit through some of that music watching the game and would break down and pay to get the announcing in there.


 
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01-25-13 03:00 PM - Post#1502733    


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sports channel ny was a ppv channel they played Sinatra and local radio over the audio yrs later they scrambled the picture every 5 seconds
Check out the power play break every week on YouTube,


 
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02-14-13 05:03 PM - Post#1510990    


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Now I recall. It would be from Wometco Home Theatre, which used to show the games but for some reason when we recorded off there we only got the video along with the music they played for the scrambled version of the channel.
 
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