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Jax
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01-20-13 07:31 AM - Post#1500411    




For the record, I love what this guy did. Unfortunately he is no longer employed by the university. I am teaching for the first time this semester, and I can tell you, after two weeks of class, I believe some college students are coddled idiots. If this is what the public education system is churning out, then we are in trouble. I know FIU isn't exactly Harvard, but I've seen writing in which students can barely construct coherent sentences. Fucking texting and Facebooking through class, coming in fifteen minutes late without so much as an "I'm sorry."
In short, this will be me in ten years.


 
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01-20-13 09:04 AM - Post#1500428    


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Some of the dumbest people I've met have college degrees. also some of the smartest, it's a mixed bag, but having a college degree doesn't automatically impress me anymore.
 
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01-20-13 09:44 AM - Post#1500440    


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My fiancee was asked where North America was on a map of the world (unlabelled). This was a Grade 10 Science class.

I worry about the future of this planet. I'll stop there before I end up ranting about today's education system.
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01-20-13 09:48 AM - Post#1500445    


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Yeah, don't get me started on public education today vs when I was in school.
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01-20-13 10:12 AM - Post#1500463    


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I didn't watch the whole thing. But he came across as a bit arrogant. He could have delivered the same message without cursing and without berating for 15 minutes. Set expectation, reinforce them, and then hold students accountable. It doesn't take saying "fuck" ten times to do that.

That said, there's too many college kids out there that simply can't write. I remember watching a new student come into a GRAD school class to deliver a presentation; and her title slide was written in Ebonics. IMO, you're now STARTING at a C. And chances are, things are about to get worse.


 
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01-20-13 10:15 AM - Post#1500467    


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I've taught to graduate students and what a breath of fresh air that was after spending 5 years teaching to first and second year bachelor students. That was 10 years ago, I got bored and moved on to other things.

The "new" generation of students scares the shit out of me. While I agree that the profanity was out of place, this guy said what a lot of teachers I knew were thinking, myself included, and didn't have the balls to say in front of their classes. I'm just happy I don't have to deal with it anymore.
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01-20-13 11:02 AM - Post#1500483    


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There are too many colleges. Period. Not everyone was supposed to get a degree, but nowadays there's a YMCA State for every kid. It's no surprise that slugs in high school would become slugs in college.
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01-20-13 11:29 AM - Post#1500499    


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Didn't watch the video - but I'm sorry, you get zero respect when you wear a tie dye shirt.

If you're a college professor, you should be at least dressed business casual. He looks like he's ready for a Greatful Dead concert

That's not to defend the students. I think it's safe to assume 75% of college students are lazy and just do enough to scrape by. But, what kind of example does he think he's setting coming dressed like this to his class?


 
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01-20-13 01:20 PM - Post#1500543    


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  • Badlands92 Said:
There are too many colleges. Period. Not everyone was supposed to get a degree, but nowadays there's a YMCA State for every kid. It's no surprise that slugs in high school would become slugs in college.



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01-20-13 04:36 PM - Post#1500738    


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  • NYR_Nutz Said:
Didn't watch the video - but I'm sorry, you get zero respect when you wear a tie dye shirt.

If you're a college professor, you should be at least dressed business casual. He looks like he's ready for a Greatful Dead concert

That's not to defend the students. I think it's safe to assume 75% of college students are lazy and just do enough to scrape by. But, what kind of example does he think he's setting coming dressed like this to his class?



My economics professor at Wharton (David Crawford) wore t-shirts, often tie-dye, when lecturing. It didn't take away from the fact that he is a genius.
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01-20-13 04:38 PM - Post#1500742    


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  • Clutch Said:
  • Badlands92 Said:
There are too many colleges. Period. Not everyone was supposed to get a degree, but nowadays there's a YMCA State for every kid. It's no surprise that slugs in high school would become slugs in college.







I agree also. The pendulum will be swinging back the other way in terms of # of colleges and overall costs. It has to.

My favorite are those sub-par $60K/year private colleges. Why bother? "Where rich parents send dumb kids"
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01-20-13 04:47 PM - Post#1500751    


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Sadly, those idiots will be allowed to vote and multiply.
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01-21-13 01:01 PM - Post#1501089    


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  • NYR_Nutz Said:
Didn't watch the video - but I'm sorry, you get zero respect when you wear a tie dye shirt.

If you're a college professor, you should be at least dressed business casual. He looks like he's ready for a Greatful Dead concert

That's not to defend the students. I think it's safe to assume 75% of college students are lazy and just do enough to scrape by. But, what kind of example does he think he's setting coming dressed like this to his class?



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01-21-13 06:04 PM - Post#1501186    


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  • rangfan Said:
  • Clutch Said:
  • Badlands92 Said:
There are too many colleges. Period. Not everyone was supposed to get a degree, but nowadays there's a YMCA State for every kid. It's no surprise that slugs in high school would become slugs in college.







I agree also. The pendulum will be swinging back the other way in terms of # of colleges and overall costs. It has to.

My favorite are those sub-par $60K/year private colleges. Why bother? "Where rich parents send dumb kids"



very true. Something has to give. University costs are out of control.

I read something recently about how even top universities may expand online courses to bring overall costs down.

I would have loved online courses when I was in school!!! Especially annoying fucking electives.


 
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01-21-13 09:40 PM - Post#1501331    


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Off topic but I saw somewhere the average college student spends 17 hours per week in class. The cost of education in this country is insane. That's just for a basic 4 year degree.

Want to go to med school, law school or grad school and prepare on having mortgage size debt. It's disgusting


 
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01-22-13 02:40 AM - Post#1501385    


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I'm currently attending the Art Institute of Colorado, and if it wasn't for my GI bill, there's no way I could afford it. School's fucking expensive as hell!
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01-22-13 07:20 AM - Post#1501411    


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  • Mike Said:
I read something recently about how even top universities may expand online courses to bring overall costs down.

I would have loved online courses when I was in school!!! Especially annoying fucking electives.



MOOCs are all the rage these days ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_open_onl ine_c... ). MIT has been offering free courses for years now with their OpenCourseWare initiative, but now we're seeing an evolution of this with Coursera, Udacity and others who are now offering credit for certain courses from major universities in the US and around the world (including Harvard, Stanford, and many others). BTW, MOOCs are a Canadian invention (started in 2008 with a distance course taught by a colleague who works at Athabasca U. out west, George Siemens, with Dave Cormier who initially coined the term).

I call the above job security. LOL
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01-24-13 09:26 AM - Post#1502316    


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"enterprising entrepreneurs"
Yes, a student actually wrote that in an assignment and turned it in.


 
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01-24-13 09:27 AM - Post#1502317    


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Why not just say "enterprising enterprisers," or "entrepreneurial entrepreneurs?"


 
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01-24-13 09:45 AM - Post#1502326    


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  • NYR_Nutz Said:
Off topic but I saw somewhere the average college student spends 17 hours per week in class. The cost of education in this country is insane. That's just for a basic 4 year degree.

Want to go to med school, law school or grad school and prepare on having mortgage size debt. It's disgusting



I have a friend that is 10 years removed from law school and is STILL paying off debt and probably will continue doing so for the next 5-10 years. Until costs are lowered or tuition is somehow regulated or controlled I honestly cannot say the juice is worth the squeeze. the financial burden is just too much to handle.
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