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01-27-13 11:03 AM - Post#1503379    



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BRASILIA, Brazil (AP) — A blaze raced through a crowded nightclub in southern Brazil early Sunday, killing 245 people as the air filled with deadly smoke and panicked party-goers stampeded toward the exits, police and witnesses said. It appeared to be the world's deadliest nightclub fire in more than a decade.

Witnesses said that a flare or firework lit by band members may have started the fire.
Police Maj. Cleberson Braida told local news media that the 245 bodies were brought for identification to a gymnasium in the city of Santa Maria, at the southern tip of Brazil near the borders with Argentina and Uruguay
Television images showed smoke pouring out of the Kiss nightclub as shirtless, young male partygoers joined firefighters in wielding axes and sledgehammers, pounding at windows and walls to break through to those trapped inside. Teenagers sprinted from the scene desperately trying to find help. Others carried injured and burned friends away in their arms.

"There was so much smoke and fire, it was complete panic and it took a long time for people to get out, there were so many dead," survivor Luana Santos Silva told the Globo TV network.
Silva added that firefighters and ambulances responded quickly after the fire broke out, but that it spread too fast inside the packed club for them to help.

Michele Pereira, another survivor, told the Folha de S. Paulo newspaper that she was near the stage and that the fire broke out after members of the band lit flares.

"The band that was onstage began to use flares and, suddenly, they stopped the show and pointed them upward. At that point the ceiling caught fire. It was really weak but in a matter of seconds it spread," Pereira said.

Most of the dead apparently suffocated, according to Dr. Paulo Afonso Beltrame, a professor at the medical school of the Federal University of Santa Maria who raced the city's Caridade Hospital to help victims.
He said survivors, police and firefighters told him a flare set by a band member set the ceiling's soundproofing ablaze. "Large amounts of toxic smoke quickly filled the room and I would say that at least 90 percent of the victims died of asphyxiation," Beltrame told The Associated Press by telephone.

"The toxic smoke made people lose their sense of direction so they were unable to find their way to the exit. At least 50 bodies were found inside a bathroom. Apparently they confused the bathroom door with the exit door."

"In the hospital I saw desperate friends and relatives walking and running down the corridors looking for information. It was one of the saddest scenes I have ever witnessed," he added.
Rodrigo Moura, identified by the newspaper Diario de Santa Maria as a security guard at the club, said it was at its maximum capacity of between 1,000 and 2,000, and partygoers were pushing and shoving to escape.

Beltrame also said he was told the club was filled far past its capacity during a party for students at the university's department of agronomy. The event featured a group called Gurizada Fandangueira, which plays a driving mixture of local Brazilian country music styles. It was not immediately clear if the band members were among the victims.

The fire led President Dilma Roussef to cancel a series of meetings at a summit of Latin American and European leaders in Chile's capital of Santiago, and was headed to Santa Maria, according to the Brazilian foreign ministry.
"It is a tragedy for all of us. I am not going to continue in the meeting (in Chile) for very clear reasons," she said.

"Sad Sunday", tweeted Tarso Genro, the governor of the southern state of Rio Grande do Sul. He said all possible action was being taken and that he would be in the city later in the day.
Santa Maria is a major university city with a population of around a quarter of a million.
A welding accident reportedly set off a Dec. 25, 2000, fire at a club in Luoyang, China, killing 309.

At least 194 people died at an overcrowded working-class nightclub in Buenos Aires, Argentina, in 2004. Seven members the band were sentenced to prison for setting off the blaze.
A blaze at the Lame Horse nightclub in Perm, Russia, broke out on Dec. 5, 2009, when an indoor fireworks display ignited a plastic ceiling decorated with branches, killing 152
A nightclub fire in the U.S. state of Rhode Island in 2003 killed 100 people after pyrotechnics used as a stage prop by the 1980s rock band Great White set ablaze cheap soundproofing foam on the walls and ceiling.
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01-27-13 11:07 AM - Post#1503380    


    In response to Cotton

The fire started "from out of nowhere" on a stage and quickly spread to the ceiling, a witness says.

The roof, the roof...


 
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01-27-13 11:07 AM - Post#1503381    


    In response to Cotton

Fucking staggering.

RIP
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01-27-13 11:30 AM - Post#1503390    


    In response to Cotton

It wasn't Great White, was it?

Be glad we have rules and regulations and building codes for shit like this.

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01-27-13 12:12 PM - Post#1503402    


    In response to PuckRogue

Jeez. That really sucks. I'm glad it was in Rio as I have a few friends who are living/vacationing there.

RIP
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01-27-13 01:57 PM - Post#1503427    


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WTF Tim? Did that just come out wrong?
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01-27-13 02:50 PM - Post#1503441    


    In response to Ogie

I think he just missed an n't.

Very sad story.

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01-27-13 08:34 PM - Post#1503583    


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  • PuckRogue Said:
It wasn't Great White, was it?

Be glad we have rules and regulations and building codes for shit like this.

-PR





You mean the rules and regs that people like Stossel want to do away with?.......
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01-27-13 08:41 PM - Post#1503586    


    In response to Baldridge

Tragic. RIP.


 
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01-27-13 08:57 PM - Post#1503595    


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I heard the bouncers were keeping people from leaving because most of the people in the bar were running a tab to pay at the end of the night. Many of the deaths were blamed on security blocking the door until the fire got really out of control.
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01-27-13 10:13 PM - Post#1503627    


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  • Ogie Said:
WTF Tim? Did that just come out wrong?



Yeah, I posted it from my phone. It meant to say "wasn't".
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01-27-13 10:55 PM - Post#1503647    


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Just last week I watched the full 20 minute unedited video of the Rhode Island nightclub fire. It's awful as you can hear the screams from people burning alive. It shows the main entrance of people piled on top of each other pleading for people outside to drag them out from the pile. It amazes me just how quick that fire and smoke spread. Apparently, the owner of the club had the exit doors chained shut so people couldn't sneak in without buying a ticket.


 
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01-28-13 12:14 PM - Post#1503769    


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  • Tim- Said:
  • Ogie Said:
WTF Tim? Did that just come out wrong?



Yeah, I posted it from my phone. It meant to say "wasn't".



10-4. Just sounded like a grim thing to say about friends in light of a tragic event. Wasn't in your character.
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01-28-13 12:53 PM - Post#1503777    


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  • Irons Said:
Just last week I watched the full 20 minute unedited video of the Rhode Island nightclub fire. It's awful as you can hear the screams from people burning alive. It shows the main entrance of people piled on top of each other pleading for people outside to drag them out from the pile. It amazes me just how quick that fire and smoke spread. Apparently, the owner of the club had the exit doors chained shut so people couldn't sneak in without buying a ticket.




I've seen that a few times. Very very sad.
 
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01-28-13 12:56 PM - Post#1503779    


    In response to Engine33

Fires like this are very sad, very tragic incidents, and point the need for fire safety standards to be enforced worldwide.

Off the top of my head, here are some very tragic incidents just like this one.

Coconut grove fire
beverly hills supper club fire
happy land social club fire
station night club fire
russian club fire a few years ago
Arrundel oyster roast fire

I know there are lots lots more, but just goes to show how these events are not isolated incidents. Very very sad.
 
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01-28-13 01:42 PM - Post#1503798    


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I attempted to put out a car fire in one of my commercial building garages 6 months ago with an extinguisher and the smoke was overwhelming. I was exposed maybe all of 2 minutes but was coughing (and spitting stuff up) for about 2 weeks afterwards. Gave me an all new/perspectiverespect for firefighters.
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01-28-13 03:53 PM - Post#1503846    


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Yea it's nasty stuff Ogie. The ABC extinguisher you used is dry chem, and the powder in those is nasty too!!
 
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01-28-13 05:55 PM - Post#1503898    


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No fire alarms, no fire exits, no sprinklers and bounces not letting people escape the over crowded night club. Shocking that something like this happened there. When I go to crowded, indoor events I try to remember to look around in case something happens. Most people will panic and run for the way they came in. You need to know where the alternative exits are.


 
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