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PuckRogue
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02-16-17 10:24 AM - Post#1693387    



http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/celebrit y/paul-wal...

That your buddy was driving like a complete fucking asshole? Come on, now...

-PR


 
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02-16-17 10:48 AM - Post#1693390    


    In response to PuckRogue

It would depend upon the alleged defect.

I don't handle those cases, but a guy I used to work with does.

He handled a roll-over case that I thought, on first blush, was a hard sell.

But the more he explained the rationale, the more I understood his point.

In that case, the manufacturer knew that the A pillar would collapse in a roll over causing the roof to form a reverse "V" shape directly over the head of the driver. The effect was like a person diving into the water head first with concrete immediately below the surface. It was an easy fix, according to internal memos, but they decided not to do it for financial reasons.

My crim law professor was one of the lawyers who criminally prosecuted Ford Motor Company for a defect in the Ford Pinto's gas tank.

So many times these case have merit.
If you believe what you like in the Gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself. - St. Augustine


 
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02-16-17 10:53 AM - Post#1693392    


    In response to PuckRogue

I blame the lawyers.

I'm relatively confident that lawyers were foaming at the mouth to take on a high profile case like this on a contingency.

Promising this young girl a large payout and convincing her that she is entitled, and hoping the threat of bad publicity will lead Porsche to settle out of court.

This is the new American dream.



I'd rather be right than politically correct


 
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02-16-17 11:12 AM - Post#1693393    


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If we are going to place blame, you also have to look at the culture of the movies he starred in.

I love movies. I'm not one of those crazy righties who joins every boycott imaginable. I even watched a Will Smith movie recently inspite of the fact that I disdain him and his overrated movies.

However, you cannot deny that as movies have gotten more violent (i.e. guns), the more gun violence we have seen spike over the years. We cannot deny that movies can have some undue influence on our culture and, therefore, our behavior.

I remember a narcotics agent from the US once saying that the amount of drug dealers and felons who imitated Scarface in the 80s was quite numerous after the release of the film.

I think it's only a matter of time, but maybe people are going to start suing movies for more of their self-destructive behaviour. How ironic would that be.


 
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02-16-17 11:39 AM - Post#1693397    


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  • Mustang27 Said:
I blame the lawyers.

I'm relatively confident that lawyers were foaming at the mouth to take on a high profile case like this on a contingency.

Promising this young girl a large payout and convincing her that she is entitled, and hoping the threat of bad publicity will lead Porsche to settle out of court.

This is the new American dream.





I wish it were that easy.


If you believe what you like in the Gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself. - St. Augustine


 
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02-16-17 11:45 AM - Post#1693398    


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  • Canucko29 Said:
If we are going to place blame, you also have to look at the culture of the movies he starred in.

I love movies. I'm not one of those crazy righties who joins every boycott imaginable. I even watched a Will Smith movie recently inspite of the fact that I disdain him and his overrated movies.

However, you cannot deny that as movies have gotten more violent (i.e. guns), the more gun violence we have seen spike over the years. We cannot deny that movies can have some undue influence on our culture and, therefore, our behavior.

I remember a narcotics agent from the US once saying that the amount of drug dealers and felons who imitated Scarface in the 80s was quite numerous after the release of the film.

I think it's only a matter of time, but maybe people are going to start suing movies for more of their self-destructive behaviour. How ironic would that be.



I remember when I was like 18 or so. I watched a movie that had a scene where a guy drove like a maniac eluding the police.

Both of my sisters had MGs. One had a Midget, the other had an MGB.

Both fun cars to drive.

Almost immediately after watching the movie, I got into one of them and got on the highway and...drove like a maniac. Not eluding the police so much. I'm not crazy.

The State Trooper who stopped me was really pissed.

If you believe what you like in the Gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself. - St. Augustine


 
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02-16-17 12:06 PM - Post#1693399    


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Unless they can show that the braking power of the car was inadequate for the HP, or that there were safety features that were claimed to be included that weren't included I would hope this would go nowhere. But lawyers.

I've always had a "toy" in addition to a commuter car/truck. At one point I had a 911. I never even asked what safety features there were. I sure asked how fast it would go!

 
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02-16-17 12:09 PM - Post#1693400    


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If I have to be perfectly honest, I sometimes wonder how much the glorification of drugs in all of those Tarantino movies I love influenced some of my idiotic experimentation days. I talked with my son's uncle, and he's a biker and once told me that Easy Rider had a huge influence on his choice to become a biker and also take up some nasty addictions.

I remember after the movie Fight Club came out, I became quite a violent asshole and I'm sure I wasn't the only one.

Yes, I do believe a big case can be made re: movies as well. You think they don't have an impact and that you have complete control over your behaviour, but when you see a charismatic good-looking role model acting in ways he shouldn't and getting rewarded in movies for it, then maybe that does have an influence.


 
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02-16-17 12:31 PM - Post#1693401    


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  • foolish Said:
Unless they can show that the braking power of the car was inadequate for the HP, or that there were safety features that were claimed to be included that weren't included I would hope this would go nowhere. But lawyers.

I've always had a "toy" in addition to a commuter car/truck. At one point I had a 911. I never even asked what safety features there were. I sure asked how fast it would go!





You're not supposed to ask about the safety features.

They should just be there, depending on the situation.

My late Uncle owned a Porsche dealership many years ago. He always said that no one should be driving the high-end cars without taking a driving course first. too damn dangerous.
If you believe what you like in the Gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself. - St. Augustine


 
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02-16-17 01:27 PM - Post#1693406    


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Canucko, do you hang out with stupid people?

Your posts in here are laughable.


 
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02-16-17 02:11 PM - Post#1693407    


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  • Kanrok Said:
  • foolish Said:
Unless they can show that the braking power of the car was inadequate for the HP, or that there were safety features that were claimed to be included that weren't included I would hope this would go nowhere. But lawyers.

I've always had a "toy" in addition to a commuter car/truck. At one point I had a 911. I never even asked what safety features there were. I sure asked how fast it would go!





You're not supposed to ask about the safety features.

They should just be there, depending on the situation.

My late Uncle owned a Porsche dealership many years ago. He always said that no one should be driving the high-end cars without taking a driving course first. too damn dangerous.




Ain't that the truth. In HS and college, I had a side job at a car customizer (this was in the mid 90's when factory options were behind the times). I was 17 the first time I was given a Ferrari to return to an owner. The only instruction i got was "He's waiting, so hurry".
 
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02-16-17 03:57 PM - Post#1693417    


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Canucko, do you hang out with stupid people?

Your posts in here are laughable.



Donald Trump can so kick your ass in a street fight Posux. Hr can strangle you with his cock.


 
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02-16-17 04:12 PM - Post#1693421    


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But to answer your question, actually at one time I did hang out with some very stupid people.


 
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02-16-17 04:13 PM - Post#1693422    


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  • Kanrok Said:
It would depend upon the alleged defect.

I don't handle those cases, but a guy I used to work with does.

He handled a roll-over case that I thought, on first blush, was a hard sell.

But the more he explained the rationale, the more I understood his point.

In that case, the manufacturer knew that the A pillar would collapse in a roll over causing the roof to form a reverse "V" shape directly over the head of the driver. The effect was like a person diving into the water head first with concrete immediately below the surface. It was an easy fix, according to internal memos, but they decided not to do it for financial reasons.

My crim law professor was one of the lawyers who criminally prosecuted Ford Motor Company for a defect in the Ford Pinto's gas tank.

So many times these case have merit.



I would be more concerned with a vehicle that you actually could roll over without really trying than whether I would have the roof crumple over my head when it rolled.
 
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02-16-17 04:19 PM - Post#1693425    


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They are both actually a thing in auto design.

Older SUVs had the propensity to tip over.

If you believe what you like in the Gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself. - St. Augustine


 
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02-16-17 07:33 PM - Post#1693472    


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In response to C29's concerns, I think it's a difference in parenting between "back then" and now. My parents let me watch whatever the fuck I wanted to as a kid. They also made sure to assure me that it was fake. I watched violent movies all the time, horror flicks, you name it. Never did I have the desire to imitate any of it.
Today, many parents use TV sets or video game consoles to babysit their children with little to no regard of what they are watching or playing. My 6 year-old tells me that some of her classmates watch The Walking Dead. I don't even let her watch SpongeBob because of the stupid shit on there.
I think many kids see games like GTA, where you can get killed numerous times and keep playing, and lose comprehension of the true finality of death. You can't shoot someone in real life then press reset to start over and I don't think that registers with many of today's kids.
Watch the Beware the Slenderman documentary on HBO. It's proof of what I am talking about.


 
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02-16-17 07:40 PM - Post#1693473    


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I agree.
If you believe what you like in the Gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself. - St. Augustine


 
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02-16-17 08:04 PM - Post#1693476    


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  • Jax Said:
In response to C29's concerns, I think it's a difference in parenting between "back then" and now. My parents let me watch whatever the fuck I wanted to as a kid. They also made sure to assure me that it was fake. I watched violent movies all the time, horror flicks, you name it. Never did I have the desire to imitate any of it.
Today, many parents use TV sets or video game consoles to babysit their children with little to no regard of what they are watching or playing. My 6 year-old tells me that some of her classmates watch The Walking Dead. I don't even let her watch SpongeBob because of the stupid shit on there.
I think many kids see games like GTA, where you can get killed numerous times and keep playing, and lose comprehension of the true finality of death. You can't shoot someone in real life then press reset to start over and I don't think that registers with many of today's kids.
Watch the Beware the Slenderman documentary on HBO. It's proof of what I am talking about.


Well said.


 
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02-16-17 08:23 PM - Post#1693477    


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I think you can look at the the prevalence of internet porn and the sexualization of kids today as a great illustration of "back then" and "now".

When I was a kid, we generally had our first few kisses and touched a boob or two in elementary school, probably got taken and explored a little in 9th and 10th, and by graduation were having what we now know to be very boring conventional sex with a girlfriend and/or a chick who we got way to drunk with. group stuff, butt stuff and anything beyond her on top were beyond comprehension until college.

Prior to marrying my wife I dated a girl who had a nephew in 8th grade that I got along with really well (he was into hockey, not common in NorCal)..... he'd had a BJ by 2 girls at the same time.

Last Friday I found out the wife is preggo. It'll be my first. I'm fucking terrified as to what that kid will be exposed to. And I think we'll be starting sex-ed at age 6.
 
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02-16-17 08:48 PM - Post#1693480    


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Dude, it's scary out there now.

If you want nightmares, hang out with moms sometime.

Enjoy a couple of cocktails with them as you drop off your wife for girl's night.

Better yet, wait until pick up time.

Get there about a 1/2 hour early.

They are in full-on gossip mode.

They have the scoop.
If you believe what you like in the Gospels, and reject what you don't like, it is not the Gospel you believe, but yourself. - St. Augustine


 
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