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Badlands92
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06-06-17 06:10 PM - Post#1700341    


    In response to foolish

Comparing radical Islams to guns is a rough one. I'm all for tightening gun laws, but Kan made a good point that longer/tougher sentences for minorities will not sit well with inner-city Dems.

Leftists like to wave the gun control argument around as a counter to pretty much anything Conservatives say or suggest. You'd think the majority of gun crimes were committed by redneck Trump voters sitting on the hoods of their trucks, picking off local minority children on their way to arithmetic studies.

Here's how I see it...if a criminal is intent to kill with a gun, he'll fairly easily steal or buy a gun illegally. We see this played out in Chicago and other Dem-controlled cities every night.

If a radical Muslim is intent on blowing up Westerners, he'll have a difficult time doing so from his hut in Yemen.
The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword.


 
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06-06-17 09:39 PM - Post#1700346    


    In response to ChiBoyinLA

But see, Chi...that's actually not true.

Unless you're a small-time drug-dealing gang member...then you're certainly about a thousand times more likely to get shot by some American.

-PR


 
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06-07-17 03:27 AM - Post#1700355    


    In response to PuckRogue

Imbesillies tryes to destroy this world............
 
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06-07-17 08:48 AM - Post#1700369    


    In response to ChiBoyinLA

  • ChiBoyinLA Said:
  • Kanrok Said:
  • ChiBoyinLA Said:
Let's keep focusing on the problem that (other than 2001) kills tens of Americans rather than the one that kills over 30,000 every single year.



Automobile fatalities?




You and me, and my family members and your family members, are over 1000 times more likely to be killed by a run-of-the-mill lunatic with a firearm than by a jihadi or other terrorist.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/03/us/terrori sm-gun-vio...

One. Thousand. Times. More. Likely.

But by all means, keep blaming the Muslims for our problems.

I am NOT minimizing the evils or terrorism. The government should do everything within reason and the bounds of our Constitution to stop it. I am in favor of the Patriot Act, FISA Courts, extreme vetting, destroying ISIS, etc.

All I am saying is that it would be nice if our politicians (mainly Republicans), and many right wing citizens dedicated as many efforts to keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and mentally deranged people, considering that those folks kill a hell of a lot more Americans every year. Instead, there is a huge chorus on the left advocating looser firearms controls. I think it is insane and hypocritical.

If "extreme vetting" is OK for immigrants, why can't we also have "extreme vetting" for a gun license? Hell, I think that "a little tougher than current vetting, and on a federal level" would keep guns away from tens of thousands of people who shouldn't have them.

I'm already anticipating the "but that won't stop a truck or knife attack!" excuse, as if that should deter us from addressing a situation that kills over 30,000 of us a year. Sigh.



I would love to see your rationale for what would be considered "mentally deranged". How would that be Constitutional? Do you know that someone with an eating disorder could be considered mentally deranged?
 
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06-18-17 07:59 PM - Post#1701061    


    In response to Pete

It wouldn't be a weekend in London without some male driver with poor eyesight hitting a few people on the sidewalk.

What a mess over there.

EDIT*** Early reports on Twitter suggesting it was a white male aiming for Muslims near a mosque. If so, an absolutely vile act that will accomplish nothing but further divide the sides.
The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword.




Edited by Badlands92 on 06-18-17 08:03 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
 
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06-18-17 08:02 PM - Post#1701064    


    In response to Badlands92

  • Badlands92 Said:
It wouldn't be a weekend in London without some male driver with poor eyesight hitting a few people on the sidewalk.

What a mess over there.




What happened?...
"I can't prove any of it"-NYRfan


 
Badlands92
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06-18-17 08:04 PM - Post#1701066    


    In response to Baldridge

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What happened?...


A van plowed into civilians on a sidewalk. Mixed reports of casualties and injuries.

Per my edit, the Twitterverse is reporting this may be "reverse-terrorism" (i.e. white, English male driving into young Muslims).

The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword.


 
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06-19-17 05:21 AM - Post#1701078    


    In response to Badlands92

Most news outlets are saying it was an attack on Muslims....

Fox is calling it an attack on "mosque worshipers"...

"I can't prove any of it"-NYRfan


 
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06-19-17 05:57 AM - Post#1701079    


    In response to Baldridge

Part and parcel of living in a big city?


 
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06-19-17 06:15 AM - Post#1701080    


    In response to Canucko29

Apparently....
"I can't prove any of it"-NYRfan


 
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06-19-17 10:09 AM - Post#1701091    


    In response to Baldridge

Confirmed that some whackjob ran over people leaving a mosque while celebrating Ramadan.

What a fucking asshole.

-PR


 
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06-19-17 10:13 AM - Post#1701092    


    In response to PuckRogue

Also, Paris police just reported that a car crashed into a police van and burst into flames (failed car bomb?) in Champs-Elysees.

-PR


 
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06-19-17 11:01 AM - Post#1701100    


    In response to PuckRogue

I'm holding my breath waiting for the apologies from all the nutjob commenters on Yahoo who immediately started blaming Muslims.
We just love to rush to judgment.


 
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06-19-17 11:31 AM - Post#1701101    


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Just like the farmer rushing to judgement claiming coyotes gutted his chicken coup. Could have been his neighbour.

Seriously, first thing that crossed my mind (being an attack on a Mosque) was it was a 'retaliatory strike'.


 
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06-19-17 11:36 AM - Post#1701104    


    In response to Beagle

Certainly don't support or excuse it, but there was bound to be backlash.
'take the shortest route to the puck and arrive in ill humor' -Fred Shero


 
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